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The Velvet Underground Brought the Avant-Garde to Rock and Presaged Punk
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The Velvet Underground Brought the Avant-Garde to Rock and Presaged Punk

Victor Bockris on the band that sold almost no records, invented about half of what came after, and was ten to eighteen months ahead of everyone while nobody was looking.

The Velvet Underground are the standard example of a band whose importance has nothing to do with how many records they sold. What gets lost in the retelling is how strange the arrangement actually was: a Long Island pop songwriter who had been grinding out knock-offs for a budget label, a Welsh viola player out of La Monte Young’s drone ensemble, and a pop artist who wanted a band the way he wanted a film camera.

Victor Bockris - co-author, with Gerard Malanga, of “Uptight: The Velvet Underground Story” - joins Nate to go through it.

They get into what John Cale actually contributed, which was not decoration but the thing that made an ordinary band extraordinary - sustained tone, drone, and the beat repetition that gave the psychedelic material a rigor nobody else’s had.

They get into Lou Reed writing lyrics as literature rather than as a vehicle for a melody, and what that did to rock and roll.

They get into Angus MacLise walking out because the band agreed to start and stop at fixed times, which he regarded as a line he could not cross.

Then the Warhol years: the Delmonico Hotel gig, an extremely unusual booking for a rock band; the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, which Bockris puts ten to eighteen months ahead of anything else happening; Nico, and the oil-and-water quality that made the first album what it is; the worry inside the camp that Lou Reed did not have the charisma to front a band.

And Tom Wilson, the A&R man who was starting Verve at MGM and signed them - the same man who had just signed and produced Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention.

And then the long unravelling: Cale out, Doug Yule in and doing what he was told, the third album, the management fight with Warhol and Paul Morrissey over publishing, a record sleeve that is a photograph of Doug Yule alone in the studio, and Sterling Morrison and Moe Tucker pushed steadily into the background - before the whole thing turns up again, a decade later, as the blueprint for punk.

MUSIC IN THIS EPISODE

  • “I’m Waiting for the Man” - The Velvet Underground & Nico, 1967

  • “Sister Ray” - White Light/White Heat, 1968

  • “What Goes On” - The Velvet Underground, 1969 (the third album, after Cale and Nico had gone)

  • “Sweet Jane” - Loaded, 1970

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